February 24, 2024 • 15 mins
Bethenny weighs in on Brandi Glanville's accusations against Andy Cohen.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
So Brandy Glanville is suing Bravo and Andy Cohen because
of an inappropriate video sent to her for sexual harassment,
saying that Andy sent her a video with another Bravo celebrity.
I think her name is Kate Chastain, and it was
(00:33):
what he said in an ex post to be a joke,
that he was drunk and he sent an inappropriate video,
but it was a joke. Andy has different relationships with
every housewife. Some could be talking about business and money
like mine used to be with him. Another could be
his party friend. Somebody else could be his really deep
(00:55):
party friend. He has different relationships with different Bravo celebrities,
and like he used to hang out with Jeff and
Jenny a lot, I don't think he hangs out with
Jenny anymore. Sometimes he hangs out with Jeff like he
picks his favorites. He used to hang out with Nini
in a certain way. He likes to hang out with
housewives individually and Bravo lebrities individually, not really in clusters.
(01:17):
So there's an individual relationship with each. And the thing
is that the article where Brian and Mark Brandy's lawyers say,
you know that they haven't seen something like this since
Matt Lower and that he sits in this position while
he's inappropriately texting and sending videos to talent. And the
(01:39):
thing is, he works for a multi billion dollar public company.
He's an he used to be an executive. He's an
executive producer, and he also has a role on one
show as talent. But he produces these shows and he's
in a power position. It's undeniable. He's in a position
to cast, to fire, to negotiate salaries, to approve, to deny,
(02:00):
to put people in this seat that seat.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And he also is in control of all.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Of the reunions and he is the host of all
the reunions, so he's in an interesting hybrid position. Something
that Kathy Griffin brought up years ago that it's unprecedented
that an executive would also then be a talent. And
she's talked a lot about him, and so has Nini.
So there's so much stuff coming out about Andy, And
the question is, should someone in a power position, who
(02:26):
has the ability to hire, to fire, and to control
someone's income and livelihood, should they be interacting with talent
getting drunk with talent, being at Bravocon, getting wasted and
joking with talent because he's not Tom Sandoval, He's not
solely talent, and he's also talent on a show where
(02:50):
he is the producer. He owns part of the show,
and he controls all the questions that often make people
look bad. No matter how you slice it. Andy Cohen
is in a power position on Bravo as a host
of reunions, as a host of a show, as an
owner of a show, as a person who produces reunions
and executive produces shows, as a person who looks at
(03:12):
casting tapes and tries to decide who makes it and
who breaks it. So Brandy Glanville was in Morocco with Caroline,
who is also not suing Brandy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
She's suing Bravo because.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Her feeling is that the environment, this cesspool, perpetuates this
type of abuse, this sexual abuse, this abuse of alcohol,
this abuse of substances. They were smoking pot in Morocco.
It's fascinating that that show never made it to air.
It's obvious why, but every week there's something new coming out.
This doesn't happen in any other area of entertainment where
(03:47):
every day ending and why there's another claim against a network,
and I don't think they're ending anytime soon. Oh Rachel
who was emotionally abused in front of a live audience
to a mental health facility. So the man who was
hosting that, you know, remains unscathed. And so this is
an interesting time in twenty twenty four post strike, when
(04:14):
people do have a voice, and when what used to
be okay in the good Old Boys Club isn't okay now.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So where is the line?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
And is talking about having sex with a person whose
job you determine whether they are hired or fired. Literally,
and I have a thousand examples. It was Andy Cohen
who came to my house to say will you come back?
And who asked me the salary I would want like.
It was Andy Cohen who I talked to about who
(04:47):
we would cast.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And who we would fire like you know. So it's
an interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And this public company has this person as the face
of this brand, this entire Bravo brand, with all of
this power, and it's out of control.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
As I've said before, no horse in this race, no lawsuit,
not suing anyone. It's just sitting on the sidelines watching this,
it's insane.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You can't even believe that it's real. So I want
to know what you think about this.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Can a person in the power position be on the
same level as the people they employ and the talent?
Like I said, if it were James Kennedy getting wasted,
that's one thing. If James Kennedy or Tom Sandoval or
(05:42):
Mario or Simon are saying something, or Joe Gorga is
saying something to someone else on the cast, that's a
different story than the person who's writing people's checks. And
oh the ninny allegations like it's endless between Carol Nini
below deck now, Brandy Glanville, Liah McSweeney, Like how many
(06:10):
claims do there have to be?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
There's something wrong here?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And the thing is I say to people like Amy Schumer,
who I love and who I know, and to Jlaw
who's a huge fan of this franchise, and these people
that just watch it as entertainment, I say, is this
female empowerment? Like these are women that fight for equal pay,
and how do they condone and endorse the culture and
(06:36):
environment that occurs in this arena? How can you be
someone who's for female empowerment and support and celebrate this medium.
Julia roberts, how I just want someone to explain it
to me, because maybe you can explain it to me,
but you can't understand it for me because I don't
understand it. So there's so much gray area in this
(07:10):
Bravo sphere because you have the executive producer, the owner
and star of the Marquee show Watch what Happens Live,
which is the flagship store of the entire Bravo universe,
that host parties with the cast at Bravo Con. On
(07:33):
his show, there's drinking, there's talk of sexuality and the
Lady Pond, and then you have a situation where women
are drinking in excess, which is the goal and the
name of the game on reality television, and they're doing
that on trips and they're provoked to do that, and
they're asked to do that, and they're encouraged to drink
(07:55):
for sure, that's a fact, and to fall off the wagon,
that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And then they get.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Into sexual altercations or discrepancies or disputes about things that happen.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But this is the.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Environment that's fostered, and you don't allow people to drink
ten drinks and not expect them to behave badly. People
always say nothing good happens after midnight, Well, what do
you think happens after forty two cocktails in another country
on jet lag? So now people are being held accountable
and responsible for actions, you know, like their normal occurrences
(08:33):
in extraordinary circumstances. And then you have a man who's
hosting a show where he's wasted every night on television,
also provocatively speaking about sex, et cetera. And you have
him in an employer position. So that's extremely confusing that
he's he is an employer. He does hire, he does fire.
He doesn't literally do that. He doesn't like Actually he's
(08:56):
not legal. He doesn't call from the legal department, but
he calls and asks about contracts and will you take this?
And won't you take that? And will you come back?
And won't you come back? He reviews casting tapes, he
literally suggests who to hire and who to fire or
like actually enforces that. It's completely confusing, It's completely gray.
(09:16):
How could anyone not understand how confusing that is? Like,
he's in a power position as an executive producer and
talent and owner of a show that is the flagship
show of that entire network, and then he's partying with
the people or sending sexually provocative videos with the people
on those shows. It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever
(09:37):
if he doesn't like someone or something someone does or says,
hence Carol calling him an asshole at the reunion. They're gone,
so like I've never you know, I've really been. I
don't understand. It's actually crazy. I can't believe I never
realized it so clear cut before. It's nuts if you
think about it. No, are there any other examples where
(10:01):
there's an executive and executive producer and boss that's also
like whooping it up and partying and getting wasted and
doing all kinds of partying. From what I hear with talent,
I don't know, like our boss is allowed to talk
about sex with their employees like it's twenty twenty four.
(10:22):
I just don't understand. Am I confused? One of the
misconceptions is that Andy made me.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Andy made me.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I am successful because of him, I am wealthy because
of him, etc. So we could split the difference and
say that the executives at Bravo made me. The Christian
Barcellos who's no longer there, or the Jen O'Connell who
used to be at Ricochet which turned into shed or
(11:02):
the producer Kiir who found me at Polo and the Hamptons,
or Bobby Zarren who pushed way more than Jill for
me to talk to Kier the producer at Polo and
the Hamptons when I didn't even understand what they were
talking about. But they needed a housewife to make the
show happen because they only had four, and Andy has
(11:22):
confirmed us in his book that they needed a fifth.
But to clarify, Andy said no to Bethany Frankel. Andy
did not want me. He was the one who didn't
want me. Jen O'Connell had to push the issue, force
the issue because her husband had worked at NBC when
I was on the Apprentice and he really liked me,
and he told her she has to jam it through.
(11:43):
So she was talking to the executives, presumably Christian Barcello's
and Lauren's Elasnik it had to be pushed through too.
Francis was there, but not in such an advisory position.
And Francis, who I like, she likes me too. I'm
sure she liked it also, But Andy was the one
who did not want me at all. He pushed to
(12:03):
have me not be on the show because I had
a pre existing public persona which was non existent to
be honest, but from the Apprentice, and he didn't want
someone who had already been on TV. This was long
before the days of casting actresses as reality stars. But
he did not want me on the show because I
had been on television before and they wanted just normal
(12:26):
people loll you know, normal superficial people. I guess to
be on the show as what were not housewives at
the time, what were Manhattan moms and it became housewives.
So I was the outlier, the question mark character that
they jammed through. But thank you to Jen O'Connell for that,
(12:49):
and ultimately the entity of Bravo and MBSC universal who
is responsible for airing content with me on it and
starting a trajectory. But no one else has done what
I did with Skins. I did that on my own.
I found the cocktail, I pushed it in. In fact,
Bravo made fun of me. They aired footage making fun
of me, you know, with that wonky logo and kind
(13:11):
of dissing on the product and the drink. I pushed
it through in my own way. I was the clown
that was made fun of in the clown car that
said skinny girl on it. But I was playing chess,
not checkers, and I made a full of myself, knowing
that that would help in hopefully moving product. And the
truth is I had nothing to lose. I was entirely broke.
(13:32):
So I put myself in that car. No one put
myself in that car, and no one found the drink,
and no one invented the drink, and no one found
the partner to do the drink, and no one made
it as a storyline, and no one got made fun
of at the charity event. I did that myself. Andy
did none of that, zero of that. And I also
left when it became toxic and disgusting, and Andy Cohen
(13:53):
came to my house and asked me, I don't want
to say pleaded with me, but you know, persistently tried
to convince me to come back because the show ratings
plummeted in the three years that I left. They went
from three million to I think it was one point
four or one point six million when I left. I
came back and they went back up to three point
(14:14):
one million, specifically when we went to Miami and I
was talking to Luan about Tom and then my Mexico trip,
that was my trip. So we can reconfigure and let
the truth get in the way of a good story
as much as we want in fairy tales and fantasies,
(14:34):
but in real life, Bethany Frankel made Bethany Frankel. Andy
Cohen didn't want me on the show, and Andy Cohen
had to ask me to come back, and Andy Cohen
really wanted me to come back the third time that
when I left, and he was the one who suggested
that I do a podcast because he'd be something great
to promote on the show, etc. Because he was trying
(14:56):
to find ways to get me to come back, which
I maybe not so politely declined. So let's let the
truth get in the way of the truth. If that's
okay with everybody else, Let's make the truth the good story,
cause it's the true story. It's the real story, and
it's my story. And I keep making Bethany Frankel, and
(15:17):
I am more successful now by if you're going by
monetary success, by three times three to four times the
amount of money I was making when I was on
the Housewives. Yeah, if you include my brand deals and
my partnerships MM four times. So thanks, good, no, thanks,
(15:40):
and sorry but not sorry. Have a good day.
So Brandy Glanville is suing Bravo and Andy Cohen because
of an inappropriate video sent to her for sexual harassment,
saying that Andy sent her a video with another Bravo celebrity.
I think her name is Kate Chastain, and it was
(00:33):
what he said in an ex post to be a joke,
that he was drunk and he sent an inappropriate video,
but it was a joke. Andy has different relationships with
every housewife. Some could be talking about business and money
like mine used to be with him. Another could be
his party friend. Somebody else could be his really deep
(00:55):
party friend. He has different relationships with different Bravo celebrities,
and like he used to hang out with Jeff and
Jenny a lot, I don't think he hangs out with
Jenny anymore. Sometimes he hangs out with Jeff like he
picks his favorites. He used to hang out with Nini
in a certain way. He likes to hang out with
housewives individually and Bravo lebrities individually, not really in clusters.
(01:17):
So there's an individual relationship with each. And the thing
is that the article where Brian and Mark Brandy's lawyers say,
you know that they haven't seen something like this since
Matt Lower and that he sits in this position while
he's inappropriately texting and sending videos to talent. And the
(01:39):
thing is, he works for a multi billion dollar public company.
He's an he used to be an executive. He's an
executive producer, and he also has a role on one
show as talent. But he produces these shows and he's
in a power position. It's undeniable. He's in a position
to cast, to fire, to negotiate salaries, to approve, to deny,
(02:00):
to put people in this seat that seat.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And he also is in control of all.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Of the reunions and he is the host of all
the reunions, so he's in an interesting hybrid position. Something
that Kathy Griffin brought up years ago that it's unprecedented
that an executive would also then be a talent. And
she's talked a lot about him, and so has Nini.
So there's so much stuff coming out about Andy, And
the question is, should someone in a power position, who
(02:26):
has the ability to hire, to fire, and to control
someone's income and livelihood, should they be interacting with talent
getting drunk with talent, being at Bravocon, getting wasted and
joking with talent because he's not Tom Sandoval, He's not
solely talent, and he's also talent on a show where
(02:50):
he is the producer. He owns part of the show,
and he controls all the questions that often make people
look bad. No matter how you slice it. Andy Cohen
is in a power position on Bravo as a host
of reunions, as a host of a show, as an
owner of a show, as a person who produces reunions
and executive produces shows, as a person who looks at
(03:12):
casting tapes and tries to decide who makes it and
who breaks it. So Brandy Glanville was in Morocco with Caroline,
who is also not suing Brandy.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
She's suing Bravo because.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Her feeling is that the environment, this cesspool, perpetuates this
type of abuse, this sexual abuse, this abuse of alcohol,
this abuse of substances. They were smoking pot in Morocco.
It's fascinating that that show never made it to air.
It's obvious why, but every week there's something new coming out.
This doesn't happen in any other area of entertainment where
(03:47):
every day ending and why there's another claim against a network,
and I don't think they're ending anytime soon. Oh Rachel
who was emotionally abused in front of a live audience
to a mental health facility. So the man who was
hosting that, you know, remains unscathed. And so this is
an interesting time in twenty twenty four post strike, when
(04:14):
people do have a voice, and when what used to
be okay in the good Old Boys Club isn't okay now.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So where is the line?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
And is talking about having sex with a person whose
job you determine whether they are hired or fired. Literally,
and I have a thousand examples. It was Andy Cohen
who came to my house to say will you come back?
And who asked me the salary I would want like.
It was Andy Cohen who I talked to about who
(04:47):
we would cast.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And who we would fire like you know. So it's
an interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And this public company has this person as the face
of this brand, this entire Bravo brand, with all of
this power, and it's out of control.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
As I've said before, no horse in this race, no lawsuit,
not suing anyone. It's just sitting on the sidelines watching this,
it's insane.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You can't even believe that it's real. So I want
to know what you think about this.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Can a person in the power position be on the
same level as the people they employ and the talent?
Like I said, if it were James Kennedy getting wasted,
that's one thing. If James Kennedy or Tom Sandoval or
(05:42):
Mario or Simon are saying something, or Joe Gorga is
saying something to someone else on the cast, that's a
different story than the person who's writing people's checks. And
oh the ninny allegations like it's endless between Carol Nini
below deck now, Brandy Glanville, Liah McSweeney, Like how many
(06:10):
claims do there have to be?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
There's something wrong here?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And the thing is I say to people like Amy Schumer,
who I love and who I know, and to Jlaw
who's a huge fan of this franchise, and these people
that just watch it as entertainment, I say, is this
female empowerment? Like these are women that fight for equal pay,
and how do they condone and endorse the culture and
(06:36):
environment that occurs in this arena? How can you be
someone who's for female empowerment and support and celebrate this medium.
Julia roberts, how I just want someone to explain it
to me, because maybe you can explain it to me,
but you can't understand it for me because I don't
understand it. So there's so much gray area in this
(07:10):
Bravo sphere because you have the executive producer, the owner
and star of the Marquee show Watch what Happens Live,
which is the flagship store of the entire Bravo universe,
that host parties with the cast at Bravo Con. On
(07:33):
his show, there's drinking, there's talk of sexuality and the
Lady Pond, and then you have a situation where women
are drinking in excess, which is the goal and the
name of the game on reality television, and they're doing
that on trips and they're provoked to do that, and
they're asked to do that, and they're encouraged to drink
(07:55):
for sure, that's a fact, and to fall off the wagon,
that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And then they get.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Into sexual altercations or discrepancies or disputes about things that happen.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
But this is the.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Environment that's fostered, and you don't allow people to drink
ten drinks and not expect them to behave badly. People
always say nothing good happens after midnight, Well, what do
you think happens after forty two cocktails in another country
on jet lag? So now people are being held accountable
and responsible for actions, you know, like their normal occurrences
(08:33):
in extraordinary circumstances. And then you have a man who's
hosting a show where he's wasted every night on television,
also provocatively speaking about sex, et cetera. And you have
him in an employer position. So that's extremely confusing that
he's he is an employer. He does hire, he does fire.
He doesn't literally do that. He doesn't like Actually he's
(08:56):
not legal. He doesn't call from the legal department, but
he calls and asks about contracts and will you take this?
And won't you take that? And will you come back?
And won't you come back? He reviews casting tapes, he
literally suggests who to hire and who to fire or
like actually enforces that. It's completely confusing, It's completely gray.
(09:16):
How could anyone not understand how confusing that is? Like,
he's in a power position as an executive producer and
talent and owner of a show that is the flagship
show of that entire network, and then he's partying with
the people or sending sexually provocative videos with the people
on those shows. It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever
(09:37):
if he doesn't like someone or something someone does or says,
hence Carol calling him an asshole at the reunion. They're gone,
so like I've never you know, I've really been. I
don't understand. It's actually crazy. I can't believe I never
realized it so clear cut before. It's nuts if you
think about it. No, are there any other examples where
(10:01):
there's an executive and executive producer and boss that's also
like whooping it up and partying and getting wasted and
doing all kinds of partying. From what I hear with talent,
I don't know, like our boss is allowed to talk
about sex with their employees like it's twenty twenty four.
(10:22):
I just don't understand. Am I confused? One of the
misconceptions is that Andy made me.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Andy made me.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I am successful because of him, I am wealthy because
of him, etc. So we could split the difference and
say that the executives at Bravo made me. The Christian
Barcellos who's no longer there, or the Jen O'Connell who
used to be at Ricochet which turned into shed or
(11:02):
the producer Kiir who found me at Polo and the Hamptons,
or Bobby Zarren who pushed way more than Jill for
me to talk to Kier the producer at Polo and
the Hamptons when I didn't even understand what they were
talking about. But they needed a housewife to make the
show happen because they only had four, and Andy has
(11:22):
confirmed us in his book that they needed a fifth.
But to clarify, Andy said no to Bethany Frankel. Andy
did not want me. He was the one who didn't
want me. Jen O'Connell had to push the issue, force
the issue because her husband had worked at NBC when
I was on the Apprentice and he really liked me,
and he told her she has to jam it through.
(11:43):
So she was talking to the executives, presumably Christian Barcello's
and Lauren's Elasnik it had to be pushed through too.
Francis was there, but not in such an advisory position.
And Francis, who I like, she likes me too. I'm
sure she liked it also, But Andy was the one
who did not want me at all. He pushed to
(12:03):
have me not be on the show because I had
a pre existing public persona which was non existent to
be honest, but from the Apprentice, and he didn't want
someone who had already been on TV. This was long
before the days of casting actresses as reality stars. But
he did not want me on the show because I
had been on television before and they wanted just normal
(12:26):
people loll you know, normal superficial people. I guess to
be on the show as what were not housewives at
the time, what were Manhattan moms and it became housewives.
So I was the outlier, the question mark character that
they jammed through. But thank you to Jen O'Connell for that,
(12:49):
and ultimately the entity of Bravo and MBSC universal who
is responsible for airing content with me on it and
starting a trajectory. But no one else has done what
I did with Skins. I did that on my own.
I found the cocktail, I pushed it in. In fact,
Bravo made fun of me. They aired footage making fun
of me, you know, with that wonky logo and kind
(13:11):
of dissing on the product and the drink. I pushed
it through in my own way. I was the clown
that was made fun of in the clown car that
said skinny girl on it. But I was playing chess,
not checkers, and I made a full of myself, knowing
that that would help in hopefully moving product. And the
truth is I had nothing to lose. I was entirely broke.
(13:32):
So I put myself in that car. No one put
myself in that car, and no one found the drink,
and no one invented the drink, and no one found
the partner to do the drink, and no one made
it as a storyline, and no one got made fun
of at the charity event. I did that myself. Andy
did none of that, zero of that. And I also
left when it became toxic and disgusting, and Andy Cohen
(13:53):
came to my house and asked me, I don't want
to say pleaded with me, but you know, persistently tried
to convince me to come back because the show ratings
plummeted in the three years that I left. They went
from three million to I think it was one point
four or one point six million when I left. I
came back and they went back up to three point
(14:14):
one million, specifically when we went to Miami and I
was talking to Luan about Tom and then my Mexico trip,
that was my trip. So we can reconfigure and let
the truth get in the way of a good story
as much as we want in fairy tales and fantasies,
(14:34):
but in real life, Bethany Frankel made Bethany Frankel. Andy
Cohen didn't want me on the show, and Andy Cohen
had to ask me to come back, and Andy Cohen
really wanted me to come back the third time that
when I left, and he was the one who suggested
that I do a podcast because he'd be something great
to promote on the show, etc. Because he was trying
(14:56):
to find ways to get me to come back, which
I maybe not so politely declined. So let's let the
truth get in the way of the truth. If that's
okay with everybody else, Let's make the truth the good story,
cause it's the true story. It's the real story, and
it's my story. And I keep making Bethany Frankel, and
(15:17):
I am more successful now by if you're going by
monetary success, by three times three to four times the
amount of money I was making when I was on
the Housewives. Yeah, if you include my brand deals and
my partnerships MM four times. So thanks, good, no, thanks,
(15:40):
and sorry but not sorry. Have a good day.
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