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February 28, 2024 9 mins

Bethenny takes the text that Kyle sent to Dorit on RHOBH under the microscope…and there’s so much to unpack, that she even surprised herself!

Plus, could this be the end of Watch What Happens Live!?

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I didn't have the full understanding because I hadn't seen
the episode and I've only seen what is on social
media about Kyle's text to Dorit. But Kyle sent a long, heartfelt, emotional,
guttural text to Dorit, and Dorrit chose to air it

(00:38):
on the show, and the production company and the network
allowed that.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Like what a personal violation like.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
That is not something I have to ask anybody if
it's okay.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
There's just I can't imagine a universe where you would
feel is this big brother? Like this is the Handmaid's Tale?
I mean, what else could it possibly be? You're on
a show, and you're working on the show, then you're
off the show and you're texting, Like does everybody have
to hand over all of their personal thoughts too? It's

(01:14):
your actions, and it's the things you say when you're
on camera, but it's the things you say when you're
off camera too. That's insanity. Like that is such a
violation and anyone who doesn't understand that is wrong And
I never say that. If you don't understand that, that's
a crazy violation and.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Should be illegal. That is wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Wow, imagine like watching television and be like, oh my god,
cause you're like, what else have I texted Dory in
the years that we've known each other? I mean, good God,
I could tell you this with great certainty. Luan, Ramona, Jill, Alex,
Kelly be like, I don't know if I've ever texted

(01:57):
Kelly Ben Timone, but like to share a personal text.
I mean I have text with Andy Cohen for years.
I would never share them text with Kelly Rippa. I
have text with people that I've worked with that I
can't stand in the past. I would never air a
personal text like or or an instant you know, an

(02:19):
Instagram message, Like that's where the line is. You know,
you do everything above board, like we're in the ring
and whatever happens in there is you're in the ring.
But like you don't like smack someone on the back
of the head as you're walking out, like it's not
fair fighting, what the fuck? And Kyle's not gonna air
Dorit's messages because that's two wrong to make it right,

(02:39):
and that's not gonna make her feel any better. It's
just so unethical from every single person. And does anyone
not understand that, Like this is insane.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I mean, it's crazy. That's I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
That hit like on the back of the head, like,
are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
If I thought my personal texts, oh my god, that
is horrendous. And Kyle is a favorite there, and that's
how they treat their favorite children. That's what happens to
the favorite child in the family. Imagine what happens to

(03:18):
the least favorite children in the family. So I need
to make the distinction between them on reunions, airing a

(03:39):
text that someone shows when there's a discrepancy. So I'm like,
you called me a whore. No, I didn't, Yes I did.
Here's the text you called me a whore. That is
very different than just unilaterally deciding to err a text
when someone is so emotionally vulnerable and just saying that

(04:02):
they're at their lowest point like that could send someone
over the edge emotionally. That's very different. And maybe listen,
I came up at the time when there were no texts,
there were no receipts. That started later, and I believe
I called Dennis on camera to prove a point. And

(04:26):
I believe that Carol and I were having a dispute
and we showed andy texts, but I don't believe we
read entire texts. Ever, I've never read an entire text
of someone else's like I feel like that's private or
an Instagram message.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
So that is very different.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Like you can't say Kyle texting someone heartfelt. That doesn't
incriminate anyone, That doesn't settle any argument, that has nothing
to do with anything else. Really that's necessary or relevant,
Like it wasn't like someone else said that Kyle killed
somebody and then Dorrie was like, here's the evidence she

(05:08):
killed somebody? Or she didn't like it was literally, Hi,
we're friends. I'm sorry, I'm vulnerable. I'm at a low
point and that was aired. So if you don't see
that that's different, then you're just clueless. Let's talk about

(05:30):
the texts that Dorit shared on the Housewives. The press
is saying that I'm blaming Dorit. I'm actually not blaming
Doriet at all. Dorrit is not at fault. Dorit is
a housewife doing a housewives job. Dorriy is a soldier
and she's a good housewife, and she needs the job.
She wants the job, she's good at the job. She's
doing her job. There are no real deep personal relationships

(05:56):
possible on the Housewives. It's affected siblings, affected sister in laws,
it's affected cousins, it's affected friendships. We've seen best friends crumble,
We've seen sisters go to war.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's a fact. So Dorita is just doing her job.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
You cannot get mad at Dorit because you cannot get
mad at anyone for what they're doing under duress. And
that's why so many housewives have admittedly said that they
take anti anxiety medication, antidepression medication, because The Housewives is
an alternate universe where it's heightened drinking, heightened stress, heightened
nervous system activation, traveling, and not getting enough sleep, alcohol

(06:38):
being everywhere, alcohol is seeming like a good idea, drugs
seeming like a good idea, falling off the wagon.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
All of these things are true.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So Dorita is in a situation where she wants to
get raiding. She's a housewife, and she also has producers
in her ear telling her it's a good idea that
happens all the time. I do not blame Dorit. Also,
we're dealing with a situation where this is a person
sending a text who's under mental and emotional dress.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
She says it in the text.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
She says she's at an emotional low, so now she's
at a vulnerable point.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
She's going through a bad divorce.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
It's affecting her emotional and mental well being, and she's
communicating that. That's different than I ever seated at a reunion.
When someone says you didn't say that, someone says I
did say that, and then they provide a receipt. That's
a very different circumstance. So don't get it twisted. I'm
not blaming Doried. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

(07:37):
So there are rumors that Watch what Happens Live end
or Andy Cohen's tenure on that show will end soon
because of failed ratings, and that show has never really
rated that high. But it's a flagship store to promote
the Bravo product, so it's a great place to have

(07:58):
a conversation about Bravo shows that will definitely and always
does result in pickup, which ends up promoting those shows.
It's always been a promotional vehicle, and everyone can decide
over ten years later to criticize Andy because of that,
and certainly he and I are not thick as thieves

(08:20):
at the moment, but I will say that he's done
a great job, Like he really has had an incredible
run from a show that in the very beginning Kathy
Griffin didn't want to do because she was like, I've
done the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, I'm not doing watch.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
What Happens Live.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
And the show started with Dan Yell as its first guest.
I used to be on in the beginning, and Oprah's
been on, Share has been on, Madonna's been on pretty
crazy guests on that show, but not just the guests.
He's been charismatic, entertaining. He makes it look easy and

(08:58):
it's not easy, and just the grind of going in
every single night and it being live and getting killed
and criticized for different things. And it's been incredibly lucrative
for him and it's been a great, as I said,
promotional tool and vehicle. But he's done great and had
a good run. So it's never been a ratings darling,
but that you know, ratings are amazing and advertisers are

(09:21):
all about the ratings, but that show has had a
double and triple dip in that it's been a great
promotional vehicle and it's been a coveted seat for women
to come on and hawk their wares and promote the show,
and it's been like a rite of passage. So many
people have passed through there, so it's definitely been an
iconic touchstone in entertainment for years
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